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Questions related to [http://www.redsailcnc.com/CM1690.html the machine] we hopefully can afford to buy soon.
 
Questions related to [http://www.redsailcnc.com/CM1690.html the machine] we hopefully can afford to buy soon.
  
* Funding deadline ? 12th October 2018.  
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* Funding deadline? 12th October 2018.  
** The link to payment info is not here because this page is not limited to members only and asking "the public" for money needs a special permit.
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** The link to payment info is not here because this page is not limited to members only and asking "the public" for money requires a special permit.
*** Check your email or "pinned items" on #yleinen at [[Slack]]
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*** Check your email or "pinned items" on #yleinen at [[Slack]].
 
** However: If you know a '''business''' that could support us, go ahead and try to get them to buy some of those support items.
 
** However: If you know a '''business''' that could support us, go ahead and try to get them to buy some of those support items.
** Organisation's own budget is reserved for rent payments and other important operating costs, so we need this special member funding to get this done. The machine is specially reserved for us and is available only for this time for this price and with these specs.
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** Our organisation's own budget is reserved for rent payments and other important operating costs, so we need this special member funding to get this done. The machine is specially reserved for us and is available only for this time for this price and with these specs.
* 2018-10-04 08:10 -- '''3 000''' of 4000€ Funded (note: amount updated manually daily or so)
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* 2018-10-04 08:10 '''3 000''' of 4000€ Funded (note: amount updated manually daily or so)
* Materials ?
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* Materials?
 
** See [http://atxhackerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Cutter_Materials http://atxhackerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Cutter_Materials]
 
** See [http://atxhackerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Cutter_Materials http://atxhackerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Cutter_Materials]
 
** [https://tampere.hacklab.fi/viswiki/Laserleikkuri https://tampere.hacklab.fi/viswiki/Laserleikkuri]
 
** [https://tampere.hacklab.fi/viswiki/Laserleikkuri https://tampere.hacklab.fi/viswiki/Laserleikkuri]
** Basically everything but metals and stuff that produces poisonous/corrosive gas
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** Basically everything but metals and stuff that produces poisonous/corrosive gas.
** Why not metal ? Short answer: Metal reflects IR too well to be cut with IR laser. Marking metals is possible though.
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** Why not metal? Short answer: Metal reflects IR too well to be cut with IR laser. Marking metals is possible, though.
 
* Cutting area 1600 × 900 mm with through feed so full-size stock can be used.
 
* Cutting area 1600 × 900 mm with through feed so full-size stock can be used.
* Total price ? About 16k€
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* Total price? About 16k€.
 
** We might also want to order a batch of laser cuttable plywood and other sheet material soon-ish after the delivery + the installation might require some extra work and purchases. Right now we just have some random acrylic mostly in white and orange.
 
** We might also want to order a batch of laser cuttable plywood and other sheet material soon-ish after the delivery + the installation might require some extra work and purchases. Right now we just have some random acrylic mostly in white and orange.
* How come delivery is already being prepared when we don't have all the money yet ?
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* How come delivery is already being prepared when we don't have all the money yet?
 
** 1. '''Optimism'''
 
** 1. '''Optimism'''
 
** 2. The seller is willing to take a risk with it; if we ultimately can't pay they will simply take the machine away again. Oct 12th is not the absolute final deadline but we'd like to be ready early.
 
** 2. The seller is willing to take a risk with it; if we ultimately can't pay they will simply take the machine away again. Oct 12th is not the absolute final deadline but we'd like to be ready early.
 
** 3. We have so far secured a fair amount of the total price as '''external funding''' in this machine, and this money cannot be used for anything else if we don't make it. The price we have to pay ourselves is '''just one quarter of the total''', and we don't want to miss this deal!
 
** 3. We have so far secured a fair amount of the total price as '''external funding''' in this machine, and this money cannot be used for anything else if we don't make it. The price we have to pay ourselves is '''just one quarter of the total''', and we don't want to miss this deal!
 
** 4. It is very unlikely there would be another possibility to get similarly large and powerful machine in this price range with 3/4 of funding already secured. We need to act now and adjust to the seller's wishes to have it delivered.
 
** 4. It is very unlikely there would be another possibility to get similarly large and powerful machine in this price range with 3/4 of funding already secured. We need to act now and adjust to the seller's wishes to have it delivered.
* What happens to my donation in case we ultimately do not make it ? For large donations we'll contact and ask whether you want your money back or should we use it for the lab in general (there's always things the we could improve), smaller ones are assumed to be usable for the general good unless you specifically contact the board and ask for your money back.
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* What happens to my donation in case we ultimately do not make it? For large donations we'll contact and ask whether you want your money back or should we use it for the lab in general (there's always things the we could improve), smaller ones are assumed to be usable for the general good unless you specifically contact the board and ask for your money back.

Versio 4. lokakuuta 2018 kello 12.23

Questions related to the machine we hopefully can afford to buy soon.

  • Funding deadline? 12th October 2018.
    • The link to payment info is not here because this page is not limited to members only and asking "the public" for money requires a special permit.
      • Check your email or "pinned items" on #yleinen at Slack.
    • However: If you know a business that could support us, go ahead and try to get them to buy some of those support items.
    • Our organisation's own budget is reserved for rent payments and other important operating costs, so we need this special member funding to get this done. The machine is specially reserved for us and is available only for this time for this price and with these specs.
  • 2018-10-04 08:10 — 3 000 of 4000€ Funded (note: amount updated manually daily or so)
  • Materials?
  • Cutting area 1600 × 900 mm with through feed so full-size stock can be used.
  • Total price? About 16k€.
    • We might also want to order a batch of laser cuttable plywood and other sheet material soon-ish after the delivery + the installation might require some extra work and purchases. Right now we just have some random acrylic mostly in white and orange.
  • How come delivery is already being prepared when we don't have all the money yet?
    • 1. Optimism
    • 2. The seller is willing to take a risk with it; if we ultimately can't pay they will simply take the machine away again. Oct 12th is not the absolute final deadline but we'd like to be ready early.
    • 3. We have so far secured a fair amount of the total price as external funding in this machine, and this money cannot be used for anything else if we don't make it. The price we have to pay ourselves is just one quarter of the total, and we don't want to miss this deal!
    • 4. It is very unlikely there would be another possibility to get similarly large and powerful machine in this price range with 3/4 of funding already secured. We need to act now and adjust to the seller's wishes to have it delivered.
  • What happens to my donation in case we ultimately do not make it? For large donations we'll contact and ask whether you want your money back or should we use it for the lab in general (there's always things the we could improve), smaller ones are assumed to be usable for the general good unless you specifically contact the board and ask for your money back.